Debian/Ubuntu sympa packages rely on apache1, so one may have problems running sympa on Ubuntu Edgy, for instance.
This simple HOWTO explains how to configure Sympa and WWS to run with Apache2 and FastCGI. FastCGI is used instead of CGI because of the performance impact it has. (Basically, CGI forks a new instance of the CGI script wheareas a FastCGI-enabled script runs as a daemon to handle requests, much like a decent system like Java Servlet API.)
Install the sympa package, and copy the installed apache1 configuration files to apache2 folder
# apt-get install sympa libapache2-mod-fastcgi
# ln -s /etc/sympa/httpd.conf-fcgi /etc/apache2/conf.d/sympa-fcgi
# dpkg-reconfigure -plow sympa
A wizzard will come up, make sure to :
- Use a database if you want to use WWS
- Select “Other” when asked what type of web server you are running
- Tell the wizzard that you want FastCGI enabled
Once this is done, check the /etc/sympa/wwsympa.conf file, and make sure
use_fast_cgi is set to 1
and the last step is to restart apache :
Now, my personal thoughts about mailing-list systems. My impression is that there is no perfect Open Source mailing-list system (however, there are several ones that “do the job”). The characteristics of a good mailing-list system would be, to my opinion :
- Be entirely configurable through a Web UI. Sympa does a pretty good job at this, since most of the settings are tweakable from WWS. However, the UI is pretty ugly (sure, one can tweak the templates, but…)
- Would provide a Mailing-List system as well as a Web forum. To make it simple, something like Google Groups, that also allows to post (and subscribe/unsubscribe orders) via email. It is then up to each subscriber to choose between email and Web.
- Re-uses a well-known templating system ( Smarty in the PHP world, or Freemarker in the Java world, …). Why re-inventing yet another templating language if very good ones already exist ? Having to learn a templating language per web-application is pretty much cumbersome.
- Be extensible : It should provide a decent plugin system, that people can use to provide additional modules without touching a single line of the current base code. Requiring the modification of a 9980-line (cat /usr/lib/cgi-bin/sympa/wwsympa.fcgi | wc -l) perl script is, In my humble opinion, very bad practice. This implies coding against interfaces, and using some kind of IoC framework like the Spring Framework.
- Would be independant of the persistence layer, through the use of a sophisticated persistence engine such as Hibernate. Anyone can then configure it to use his preferred database engine
- Authentication would also be extensible. A security framework such as Acegi could be used so that anyone can easily have the mailing list system authenticate the users against the configured authentication backend. (be it database, system/PAM, Single-Sign-On, etc..). It doesn’t make sense to re-implement every authentication backend in every webapp, since some frameworks already do the job.