Comments on: 10 things that still suck under Linux http://www.dalouche.com/wordpress/2006/01/22/10-things-that-still-suck-under-linux/ Sami Dalouche's blog about Linux, Java, .NET and other bleeding-edge stuff. skoobi@free.fr Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:06:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: skoobi http://www.dalouche.com/wordpress/2006/01/22/10-things-that-still-suck-under-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-11237 skoobi Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:45:38 +0000 http://samokk.is-a-geek.com/wordpress/2006/01/22/10-things-that-still-suck-under-linux/#comment-11237 Dan: tools such as webmin are, in my opinion, comparable to the initial attempts of many linux vendors (mandriva, suse, red hat, ...) of making the linux desktop not suck. Basically, they were creating tons of layers to provide nice user tools to connect to the networks, mount drives, whatever. The main problem was that there were missing foundations (hald, udev, etc) and they were constantly doing dirty hacks to lure the user into thinking that the desktop was ready. Now that things are way smoother, that aplications can subscribe to network events, that automounts work correctly, etc, we can definitely say that the user experience is better. Well.. my opinion is that it's the same for system administration. You can create UIs to hide the mess, but if you really want to go forward, at some point, you need to fix the mess. And I am pretty sure that it would open the door to much more innovation... Dan: tools such as webmin are, in my opinion, comparable to the initial attempts of many linux vendors (mandriva, suse, red hat, …) of making the linux desktop not suck. Basically, they were creating tons of layers to provide nice user tools to connect to the networks, mount drives, whatever.

The main problem was that there were missing foundations (hald, udev, etc) and they were constantly doing dirty hacks to lure the user into thinking that the desktop was ready. Now that things are way smoother, that aplications can subscribe to network events, that automounts work correctly, etc, we can definitely say that the user experience is better.

Well.. my opinion is that it’s the same for system administration. You can create UIs to hide the mess, but if you really want to go forward, at some point, you need to fix the mess. And I am pretty sure that it would open the door to much more innovation…

]]> By: Dan http://www.dalouche.com/wordpress/2006/01/22/10-things-that-still-suck-under-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-11236 Dan Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:21:58 +0000 http://samokk.is-a-geek.com/wordpress/2006/01/22/10-things-that-still-suck-under-linux/#comment-11236 Not to give a flippant, two line responde to a GREAT post but: I use webmin/virtualmin (don't laugh - 14 years of UNIX Admin here) to wrap up apache/postfix/bind/awstats/webalizer/php/logrotate/ssh/vsftpd/ssl vhosts. I fill out four text boxes, and click 'ok'. For encrypted root: ubuntu makes it easy/sexy/reliable. Not to give a flippant, two line responde to a GREAT post but:
I use webmin/virtualmin (don’t laugh – 14 years of UNIX Admin here) to wrap up apache/postfix/bind/awstats/webalizer/php/logrotate/ssh/vsftpd/ssl vhosts. I fill out four text boxes, and click ‘ok’.

For encrypted root: ubuntu makes it easy/sexy/reliable.

]]> By: Sami Dalouche » HOWTO: Apache2 + Awstats setup on Debian/Ubuntu (Edgy Eft) http://www.dalouche.com/wordpress/2006/01/22/10-things-that-still-suck-under-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-184 Sami Dalouche » HOWTO: Apache2 + Awstats setup on Debian/Ubuntu (Edgy Eft) Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:07:19 +0000 http://samokk.is-a-geek.com/wordpress/2006/01/22/10-things-that-still-suck-under-linux/#comment-184 [...] HostAliases should list ALL the aliases listed in Apache2’s VirtualHost configuration. Usually, you will want the same domain prefixed with www, (or without the www prefix if is it already specified in the main domain name). This is really annoying, error-prone and not having a global definition of a “virtual host” on the system is one of the issues I pointed in “10 things that still suck under linux“. Virtual hosts and aliases should be defined once, globally. Every single concept/thing should be repeated/configured once, and only once, on a perfect system. Anyways… [...] [...] HostAliases should list ALL the aliases listed in Apache2’s VirtualHost configuration. Usually, you will want the same domain prefixed with www, (or without the www prefix if is it already specified in the main domain name). This is really annoying, error-prone and not having a global definition of a “virtual host” on the system is one of the issues I pointed in “10 things that still suck under linux“. Virtual hosts and aliases should be defined once, globally. Every single concept/thing should be repeated/configured once, and only once, on a perfect system. Anyways… [...]

]]> By: Randy Gordon http://www.dalouche.com/wordpress/2006/01/22/10-things-that-still-suck-under-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-13 Randy Gordon Mon, 27 Feb 2006 02:51:47 +0000 http://samokk.is-a-geek.com/wordpress/2006/01/22/10-things-that-still-suck-under-linux/#comment-13 Ubuntu isn't the best Linux for features like that. Try investigating SuSE/Novell 10. Novells AppArmor automatically protects common applicationsm and is a LOT faster than SELinux. For example, I want an encrypted filesystem, I just enable a checkbox when I specify formatting a filesystem. Purely to satisfy my curiousity, have you worked with PAM style authentication much? Ubuntu isn’t the best Linux for features like that.

Try investigating SuSE/Novell 10.
Novells AppArmor automatically protects common applicationsm and is a LOT faster than SELinux.

For example, I want an encrypted filesystem, I just enable a checkbox when I specify formatting a filesystem.

Purely to satisfy my curiousity, have you worked with PAM style authentication much?

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